L’honorable Mme Deschamps, vice-doyen Gold, Mesdames et Messieurs, chers collègues, chères collègues, chers étudiants, chères étudiantes. I wish to thank you all for taking the time this evening to come and listen to this lecture.
Je voudrais exprimer mes sincères remerciements à Mme Deschamps pour ses généreux mots d’introduction. C’est pour moi un honneur d’être présenté par une des plus grandes juristes du Canada, une personne dont le dossier en matière de service public est aussi vaste.
This evening I will defend a view of the constitution that is premised upon the ideal of normative unity. Evidence of this view may be found, I think, in the reasons authored by Mme Deschamps when she was a justice of the Supreme Court of Canada—in particular in her insistence upon critical reflection about long-established cases and doctrine in light of underlying or unwritten constitutional principles or values. My students present here this evening are, I hope, mentally listing the names of the relevant cases right now. Mme Deschamps, je vous remercie d’avoir pris le temps d’être ici ce soir. Cela signifie beaucoup pour moi.
I wish to thank also Associate Dean Gold for his kind introductory remarks. Although he is unable to be here this evening, I wish also to thank the Dean of the Faculty of Law, Robert Leckey, for the tremendous support that he has shown me since I arrived at McGill last summer.
Finally, I am thankful for the presence this evening of my parents, Wynn and Mary Margaret Walters, and my spouse, Gillian Ready.
We are gathered this evening within the traditional territory of the Kanien’kehá:ka people, a place that has long been a meeting point for other nations too, including the Anishinaabe and especially the Algonquin peoples. Indeed, this reality is one aspect of the themes of unity and pluralism that I want to address this evening. I return to this point in a few moments.
I am delivering the second inaugural F.R. Scott lecture. I want to start by going back to the first one, given by my predecessor, Rod Macdonald, on February 16, 1996. On that occasion, the Scott Professor reminded those present of the many ways in which Frank Scott had been, as Rod put it, “a “great Canadian”. That Frank Scott could win the Governor General’s Award twice, once for his work in constitutional law and once for his work as a poet, is evidence of his unique capacities and contributions to public life. Rod said that it was an “honour” to deliver his lecture but also a “daunting task”, for Frank Scott was “an intellectual giant; [and] I do little more than walk in his shadow.”
Of course, at this time Rod Macdonald was already one of Canada’s distinguished intellectuals himself. I will not list his accomplishments now—that would take more time than we have. But I do wish to register for the record my own view that Rod was beloved at McGill and throughout the legal academy in Canada and beyond because of his generous and original spirit, because of his ability to infuse within his students and colleagues a sense of wonder and optimism about law’s potential for good, and because of his steadfast refusal to accept orthodoxy as authority. If Rod Macdonald was walking in the shadow of Frank Scott, what am I doing? If it possible to walk in the shadow of a giant who walks in the shadow of a giant, then that is what I am doing. Rod may have been appointed to the Scott Chair because of his achievements, but I get the sense that I have been appointed because of my potential achievements. My new colleagues have placed their trust in me to fulfill that potential, and I am deeply honoured and humbled to be given the opportunity.
So, then, let me begin. This evening, I want to defend a theory of constitutional value that is premised upon what I will call “normative unity”. I have, however, chosen the title of my lecture carefully. First, I wish only to gesture “toward” such a theory. I will not try to offer a complete account. I am, as it were, letting myself off the hook. Second, you will have noted that I have also alluded in the title to that most-important of McGill ideas, “pluralism”. My objective, then, is to offer some critical reflections about the ideals of unity and pluralism in constitutional law and how they may be seen to be mutually reinforcing rather than conflicting ideals. In particular, I want to examine and ultimately reject a view that appears to be gaining ground in Canada: the view that the Canadian constitution is characterized by something called “agonistic constitutionalism”. “Agonism” is a term derived from the Greek word agon, meaning conflict or strife, and within moral and political philosophy it has come to represent a conflict-focused account of pluralism.
I should, however, be clear in this respect. There is no question that persistent disagreement and therefore debate about basic constitutional values is not just inevitable but should be welcomed and cherished within any democratic pluralistic society. I want to suggest, however, that disagreement is not inconsistent with the commitment to the kind of normative unity that is necessary for the ideals associated with legality or constitutionalism to flourish. My concern is that the invocation of agonism may obscure this fundamental point. We are not yet in a post-truth world, though that world seems at times threatening, and so I think that we need a theory of constitutionalism that allows us to take a stand and to defend the truth about the meaning of certain basic constitutional values, including liberty, equality, democracy, justice, and, of course, legality or the rule of law. That theory must, at the same time, accept and defend another constitutional value, the value of pluralism. These are the values that must hold together, somehow, as a coherent whole if individuals, communities, and nations are to be equally valued and respected within Canada and the world beyond.
But what about this business of the hedgehog? It was, of course, Isaiah Berlin who famously stated in a 1953 essay: “There is a line among the fragments of the Greek poet Archilochus which says: ‘The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.’” Berlin proceeded to explain that certain scholars are like foxes because they are fast and clever and pursue many ends and hold many ideas not all of which are related or consistent, and others are like hedgehogs because they seek gradually to reveal a single central vision that is more or less coherent. The commonly accepted view is that Isaiah Berlin was a fox par excellence. In his most famous essay, “Two Concepts of Liberty”, Berlin argued that liberal societies are, or should be, marked by two basic features: first, a commitment to so-called negative liberty, the idea that the individual has the right to exercise freedoms protected from the state; and, second, the acknowledgment of pluralism or value pluralism, the idea that freedom allows each person to develop conceptions of value or good of their own which will invariably be, among the people of any liberal community, multiple and conflicting.
The basic question that I would like to address is whether pluralism means we must be foxes—or, in other words, whether if we are hedgehogs, we must deny pluralism. The answer to this question given by the legal philosopher Ronald Dworkin in his epic account of ethics and political morality, Justice for Hedgehogs, is that we should be hedgehogs and reject value pluralism. But what does this really mean? Does the hedgehog really have to reject pluralism altogether? Hedgehogs are notoriously shy creatures. They are hard to find at the best of times. Finding a pluralistic hedgehog might well be impossible. But that is our task this evening.
In pursuing this end in this inaugural lecture, it will be helpful for me to go back to the point where my predecessor ended his inaugural lecture. After a careful assessment of Frank Scott’s understanding of the Canadian constitution, Rod Macdonald concluded that this understanding left several challenges for the constitution unaddressed. One of those challenges he identified as follows:
[H]ow should governments respond to the challenges of pluralism? The forging of a unitary Canadian civic identity, so central to F.R. Scott’s constitutional vision, has little to say about the recognition and accommodation of ethnic and cultural diversity in a modem multicultural state such as Canada. Rather, it is the theme of multiple allegiances—the need to mediate between different and divided loyalties within a state that does not seek to impose a homogeneous view of citizenship—that makes the explicit claims of Charter patriots possible.
Rod no doubt understood that Scott was a product of his time, and that given his experiences of living through the Depression and the Duplessis era in Quebec it would have been natural for him to assume that the ambitious project of building a modern social-democratic state would require strong federal vision and action—or a unitary civic identity. Macdonald’s actual concern about Scott’s constitutionalism ran to a different, deeper level. Rod was struck by the fact that Scott, despite his stature as a great Canadian poet, was relatively unpoetic in his approach to the constitution. The constitution according to Scott was, Rod thought, all reason and no rhyme. As Rod concluded: “The key challenges now facing Canada”—he had just mentioned pluralism, divided loyalties, multiple allegiances, and a heterogeneous view of citizenship “cannot be addressed without the rediscovery of rhyme and the celebration of both rhyme and reason in Canadian constitutionalism.”
The idea that rhyme is important to the value of constitutionalism in a pluralistic society strikes me as an important insight. Two figures overshadow much of modern legal and jurisprudential thought. These figures have been known by different names at different times and in different places. Facing off against each other, we find, for example, reason and will, principle and policy, right and might, jus and lex, justice and power, rationality and politics. Whatever names they bear, the power of their influence upon legal thought often leads us to accept an artificial binary that obscures essential truths about the value of legality. Law is not just a matter of either reason or right on the one hand and power or politics on the other. There is between them, Rod Macdonald reminds us, the moderating and humanizing influence of rhyme.
I am not certain that Rod would have agreed with me, but I think that rhyme is evident in two venerable strands of European legal thought. Renaissance humanists in France, and the English common lawyers in the time of Sir Edward Coke who were influenced by them, developed new approaches to the understanding of “logic” by turning to the ancient idea of “rhetoric” and its insistence upon harmony or elegance in the structuring of arguments. The common law, on this view, becomes, as the early seventeenth-century judge John Doderidge said, an “art” of reasoning in which “the truth is found out by [a]rgument, debate, and discourse of reason on both parts”. There is arguably a sense of rhyme implicit within rhetoric.
Rhyme may also be seen within the ancient concept of æquitas, or equity in its broadest sense. The jus gentium in Roman law, wrote the nineteenth-century legal philosopher John Austin, was “the law common to …various nations, or administered equally or universally to members of these various nations” and was thus also styled “jus æquum, jus æquabile, æquitas”, with the term “æquitas” meaning, he said, “conformity or consonance to a common or equal law.” Given its “large and liberal spirit”, æquitas came to be known for its “universality” and “gradually came to signify impartiality.” Its “radical idea”, Austin concluded, was that law “should be applied uniformly to all the cases which come within its principle” and so it was based upon the value of “harmony or elegantia” and it was opposed to “incoherency.”
Like Austin, Sir Henry Maine extolled the virtues of the Roman prætorian system with its vibrant body of case law based on “Æquitas”. And like Austin, he emphasized the basic ideal of equality underlying this law: through the judicial search for “equal or proportionate distribution”, the principle of the “‘equality’ of laws” led to a “constant levelling or removal of irregularities.” The Roman jurisconsults had “freely surrendered themselves” to “their sense of simplicity and harmony—of what they significantly termed ‘elegance.’” As the sixteenth-century English jurist, Christopher St. German, wrote—summarizing a point accepted by centuries of common law judges— the unwritten law of reason ensures that æquitas is implicitly part of every written or positive law, rounding off its edges to avoid unjust results that general terms may produce in specific cases.
Ideas of harmony, elegance, balance, proportion, coherence, integrity, symmetry, consistency, and reconciliation all have something to do with the juridical union of rhyme and reason. These are ideas that suggest an ideal of normative unity. How else could the objective of equal respect for everyone implicit within the concept of legality be realized? Yet the application of this ideal of legal elegance or harmony was not a matter of cold logic or reason aimed at bland sameness. It was not difference, but the prospect of discordance or disharmony within the law that was the concern.
There is probably good reason to think that the concept of constitutional rhyme informs Indigenous legal traditions as well, though, if so, in very different ways. My thoughts in this respect are offered tentatively and with a sense of humility, for my ability to interpret traditions of a very different set of cultures from my own is limited and even the attempt comes with moral risk. As far as I can gather, however, it does seem that for the peoples indigenous to this part of the world, that is, the Great Lakes watershed and the St. Lawrence River valley—the Haudenosaunee and the Anishinaabe peoples in particular—legal order was, and perhaps still is, a matter of seeking harmony between a complex series of shifting normative spheres or domains. Families, clans, villages, nations, and confederacies of nations represented a dynamic network of interconnecting jurisdictional domains—a kaleidoscope of jurisdictions really—within and between which normative meaning evolved through conference and council, and the forging of duties of trust and care by exchanges of gifts that formed a sort of spiritual kinship between peoples and communities. These normative spheres shifted constantly in part because they were integrated within a dynamic physical environment that was alive spiritually with its own shifting normative spheres, and the constant search for normative order among people involved seeking balanced relations within and between these spheres or domains. Legality was thus grounded within the homeland of the people, though it was not territorial in the European sense, and did not involve the assertion of authority by a single sovereign over the land. It came rather through the daily effort to negotiate good relations in a swirling jurisdictional environment that shaped multiple sets of allegiances for people with layered and complex senses of identity.
The customary norms that governed relations within and between Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe communities were extended to the treaty relationship with Europeans and informed, for example, the “covenant chain” relationship linking all nations within the Great Lakes region with the Crown, a relationship that was affirmed at (among other treaty councils) the Niagara council convened by the Crown’s representative, Sir William Johnson, in 1764. On this occasion, as on many others, wampum belts—belts, that is, of white and purple sea shells carefully woven together to produce images of national friendship and national autonomy—were exchanged, including belts with the classic covenant chain imagery of a series of links between an Indigenous mountain and a European vessel. The objective of these treaties was to establish duties of care and trust by forging with the Crown something like the kind of spiritual harmony and kinship that brought normative unity within and between their own communities. There was a rhyme and reason to the covenant chain constitution. Consider, for example, the written account of a speech given by an unnamed Mohawk orator at a covenant chain council:
The Mohawks Speaker said, “Where shall I seek the Chain of Peace? Where shall I find it but upon our Path? And whither doth our Path lead us, but into this House? This is a House of Peace;” after this he sang all the Links of the Chain over.
This brief passage has a sort of poetic power to it. It may only be the summary of the speaker’s words and songs; however, the idea that one could sing “all the Links of the Chain over”, that the treaty relationship could be expressed through song, is significant. There was, as the wampum belts often show, a linking of arms, a physical and spiritual joining of people together. To invoke the language I have been using this evening, if I may, these societies were deeply pluralistic in the sense that laws did not emanate from a single sovereign commander. Each individual or community could go their own way should they wish to, and yet precisely because of this sense of freedom (or pluralism) there was a need to establish a deep sense of normative unity through a legal narrative that captured rhyme and reason in a very distinctive sense, one that bound peoples who were equally free in relations of care and trust.
Perhaps we can say, then, that rhyme is a part of each of the three sets of legal traditions now found in Canada—common law, civilian, and indigenous. Of course, these suggestions will seem rather lofty and detached from the hard realities of the Canadian constitution today. But they will, I hope, provide us with some direction in due course. Before developing these ideas further, however, it is time to address the ideas of agonism and agonistic constitutionalism.
To this end, it may be helpful to return to Isaiah Berlin. Berlin did not just think that basic values, like liberty and democracy, at times conflict. He seemed to think that fundamental values are ultimately incommensurable or rationally incomparable. Without a common measure or scale to compare liberty and democracy, for example, there can be no rational discourse about how to resolve competing claims about the two. To compare a claim about liberty with one about democracy is like asking whether a metre is bigger than a litre. In these circumstances, there can be no principled reconciliation of the values, but only at best a contingent rapprochement between opposing views.
Or at least this was the reading of Berlin adopted by another influential Oxford philosopher, John Gray. Taking Berlin’s views on incommensurability to an extreme conclusion, Gray argued that “[the] rationalist and universalist tradition of liberal political philosophy runs aground, along with the rest of the Enlightenment project, on the reef of value pluralism.” Value pluralism implies not just opposing accounts of value between individuals, but also between entire cultures and cultural traditions. Once it is clear that competing visions of value between individuals and communities and indeed entire cultural traditions are incommensurable, then, Gray argues, it follows that they cannot be resolved through any “rational” method, including any “jurisprudential” or “legalist” method. Gray thus insists that value pluralism leads us to accept what he calls—with echoes, I think, of Carl Schmitt—“the primacy of the political”, meaning that choices about rights and values can only be made through politics and political struggle and never on the basis of principle. This is, we may say, the legal and political philosophy of the fox. Berlin’s liberalism was, in fact, Gray insisted, “agonistic liberalism”, a liberalism that depended entirely on political and cultural contingency and not reason.
It is not my objective this evening to consider whether Gray was right to call Berlin an agonistic liberal. In fact, one of my new McGill colleagues, Daniel Weinstock, writes convincingly that Gray was very wrong about Berlin. I am instead interested in the more general claim that the fact of pluralism means that we must accept value pluralism and thus also agonism. I am also interested in the troubling question of what agonism means for our commitment to the value of legality, because I think legality implies normative unity. If we are good pluralists must we accept that the value of legality or constitutionalism itself has been wrecked upon the reef of value pluralism?
Chantal Mouffe, who is perhaps the leading champion of agonism today, builds her account of the idea on the concept of “the political” developed by Carl Schmitt. Schmitt, the German jurist associated with the Nazi regime, famously argued that the constituent power of the people exercised through the sovereign can never be legally limited, but must always be free to decide upon the exception—upon who is in and who is out of the demos, who is friend and who is enemy. Decisionism of the Schmittian kind is accepted because of a belief in the irrationality of the political, that no other way exists to reconcile values or aspirations or rights—which is, of course, the antithesis of a regime of law. Mouffe does not follow Schmitt entirely. Her objective is to transform the eliminable tension between competing political values from one that produces antagonism within society to one of agonism, in which competitors see themselves as respectful adversaries rather than enemies. But agonism follows from and does not displace the assumption of radical moral indeterminacy; it is ultimately a vision of politics as pure power that is inconsistent with, among other ideals, the ideals of constitutionalism and legality.
A form of agonism has entered constitutional discourse in Canada—or at least its proponents say it is agonism. The attraction of this form of agonism is that it responds to the reality that in Canada today there is disagreement not just about the meaning of this or that constitutional provision, but rather about the basic essence of the constitution itself, including its authority, its legitimacy, and its relationship to ideas about sovereignty. Just this week, my new colleague Stephen Scott was in the Superior Court of Quebec arguing against the constitutionality of so-called Bill 99, or la Loi sur l’exercice des droit fondamentaux et des prérogatives du peuple québécois et d’État du Québec, a provincial statute that contains a series of propositions about the powers of a Quebec “people” to determine its future that, on their face, seem difficult to reconcile with the vision of constitutionalism carefully articulated by the Supreme Court of Canada in its famous opinion in the 1998 Quebec Secession Reference. In this respect, we might also consider the following statement issued by the James Bay Cree, an Indigenous nation located within the province of Quebec, in October of 1995:
We are Eeyou.
We are a sovereign Peoples.
We are the original inhabitants of Eeyou Estchee and are one with Eeyou Estchee. Our power derives from the Creator, from the Eeyou and from the living spirit of the land and waters.
We have the inherent right to self-determination and the right to govern ourselves. We have a distinct identity reflected in a distinct system of laws and government, philosophy, language, culture, heritage, values, customs, traditions, beliefs and territory.
… Cree consent is required and mandatory for any changes to our status as Eeyou or to the status of Eeyou Estchee.
As Peoples with a right to self-determination, we shall freely decide our political status and associations and freely pursue our future as a people.
Depending upon how it is read, this statement might also be difficult to reconcile with existing statements of Canadian constitutional law found in the opinions of the Supreme Court of Canada. The Cree statement of self-determination certainly appears inconsistent with the Quebec legislature’s statement concerning “the right of the Québec people to self-determination” in Bill 99—which assumes that the Quebec people speaks for Indigenous peoples within Quebec’s boundaries. These appear to be diametrically opposing constitutional visions. If disagreement is this deep and is grounded in the reality of fundamental differences in cultural and national identities that demand and deserve to be respected, how can a theory of constitutional normative unity be entertained? It seems almost arrogant to suggest that it could.
The agonistic response thus appears to be the respectful one, the one based upon humility. But it also has a reformative or redemptive edge too. In arguing that the assertion of Indigenous legal traditions in Canada today may be seen to subvert or disrupt established constitutional assumptions in Canada, John Borrows invokes the theoretical insights of James Tully. In particular, Borrows invokes Tully’s exploration of the critical unbalancing of received political and legal notions and the patterns of domination they instantiate, a process that, Tully says, enables us “to see our island of disputation and negotiation” not as a utopian process of rational and transparent communication, but rather “as it is, in the rough and agonistic sea of relations of power.” From relations of domination and power and the resistance that disrupts them cannot emerge a singular vision of constitutionalism, though workable compromises may be possible. As Jeremy Webber argues, Canadians have succeeded in sustaining a polity that does not require a single constitutional vision of its members; with the claims by Indigenous nations and Quebec nationalists in mind, he observes that “even questions of sovereignty, are held in abeyance.” Webber, who also relies upon Tully’s work, writes as follows:
This might be called agonistic constitutionalism: a constitutionalism in which contending positions are seen to be essential to the society, animating it, and where these positions are not neatly contained within a comprehensive, overarching theory. … It takes the diversity of the country as it finds it, and treats the development of its constitution as something that must proceed day by day, not through the fiat of a closed set of founding fathers or their privileged successors.
Webber observes that the Supreme Court of Canada has, in effect, adopted a kind of agonistic constitutionalism, by seeking, where possible, to address constitutional conflict not by definitive, substantive rulings about rights and duties, but by crafting procedural and substantive principles designed merely to inform, shape, discipline, and channel on-going dialogue between political actors who appear to hold fundamentally opposed visions of the constitution.
The Canadian school of agonistic constitutionalism offers powerful insights into governance within divided societies. Relations of domination should be disrupted. Constitutions should be understood as the product of the daily practice of constitutionalism, as individuals and communities work to understand better what just relations might look like. Each of these propositions seems right. And yet, I remain concerned about a theoretical framework for considering the experience of constitutionalism that is based on the agonistic assumption of radical moral indeterminacy and the privileging of power over principle.
It is fair to say that Canadian constitutional agonists are not of the Mouffe-Schmitt kind. Tully’s agonism is a kinder and gentler agonism. His inspiration is not Schmitt but Michel Foucault. He invokes Foucault’s argument that the very idea of power implies the existence of freedom, that one can only exercise power over people who have some degree of freedom, and hence freedom itself is only to be understood through the existence and response to power. “Rather than speaking of an essential freedom,” writes Foucault in a passage upon which Tully relies, “it would be better to speak of an ‘agonism’—of a relationship which is at the same time reciprocal incitation and struggle, less of a face-to-face confrontation which paralyzes both sides than a permanent provocation.”
Yet, for this “permanent provocation” to produce the kind of redemptive effect for the marginalized and the oppressed that Tully hopes for, it is necessary, Tully himself says, to imagine “diverse forms of citizen participation involv[ing] agonic dialogues and negotiations in which audi alteram partem (always listen to the other side) is the immanent rule of reciprocity.” In this way, “the rules of intersubjective recognition [may] be open to question and subject to the interplay of reasons and re-descriptions among free and equal citizens”, including both “multicultural citizens” and “suppressed nations and indigenous peoples.” Tully’s agonic dialogue needs a normative framework premised upon a classic principle of natural justice or due process, or, in other words, the rule of law, that is in turn premised upon an underlying commitment to the idea that people are equally free. Agonistic dialogue seems to require a decidedly non-agonistic constitutionalism. Has the hedgehog infiltrated the pluralist camp?
It could be said that these framework requirements merely structure or contain power politics loosely and that real agonism flourishes within. If only form and substance could be so neatly divided. Once a respectful (agonic) dialogue unfolds, once, that is, the sides in a relationship of power and domination begin to listen to each other, what will be said? It seems to me almost inevitable that, at some point in this deliberative process, one side will try to explain to the other that maintaining the unbalanced relationship of power involves moral incoherence—that the situation cannot be defended by the other side unless they abandon convictions or ideals that they, and indeed those on both sides, cherish; that the continued acceptance of the status quo shows their convictions as a whole to be in a state of discordance, indeed a shambles; that there is no reason to the way the positions that they try to defend fit together, but also no rhyme. The implicit lesson of the renaissance humanists and the old common lawyers is that truth is something toward which we work through an attempt to show, through discourse or disputation, how the specific or concrete convictions about value we do share or the established cases we do accept—there must be some—may be seen to hold together as coherent and unified in light of a theory of more abstract or general value which they presuppose.
This style of normative discourse is ancient, though it is now often associated with and also obscured by its principal modern champion, Ronald Dworkin, who calls it “interpretation”. It is ‘interpretivism’ of some kind, whether Dworkinian or not we leave to the side for now, that, I think, offers a compelling alternative to agonism that allows us to reconcile normative unity with pluralism. Dworkin’s account does provide some useful starting points. On Dworkin’s view of the unity of value, truth about value is not anchored in some foundation or source external to the interpretive process; rather, different accounts of truth are presented and defended through a process of critical reflection involving the constant oscillation between concrete and general in search of equilibrium. The great insight offered by this style of normative discourse is, in my view, that it is a thoroughly non-foundational or “circular” theory of value generally, and it implies a “circular” theory of legality or the concept of law in particular, one in which there is no extra-legal or pre-legal fact or command or norm that holds the law together.
However, there are (at least) two things missing or under-emphasized in Dworkin’s interpretive account of normative unity. The first is that rhyme, though present, is not held up as a special feature of interpretation. If the interpretive process yields truth at all, it will not be by virtue of formal logic or analytical purity. Values may well be, as agonists say, incommensurable as a matter of strict reason, because no scale or measure exists to compare them scientifically. But humans are not machines and we should not expect their values to be explicable through mathematical formulæ. The interpretive process is an art not a science, and a good argument about value will be, at some level, an aesthetically attractive arrangement of ideas—one that manifests harmony, equity, proportion, or elegantia.
Second, the idea of normative unity must of course address the reality of pluralism. How can an interpretive or circular theory of law, with its incessant drive for normative unity, integrity, or coherence, account for and accommodate—let alone nurture and celebrate—the reality of a pluralistic society? There is much in Dworkin’s work suggestive of a monolithic liberal legalism: he does, after all, refer to law’s empire and he imagines a superhuman judge Hercules who can find the right answer to any legal question. It all sounds very imperialistic. I am reminded at this point about an exchange that I witnessed in a seminar led by Dworkin at Oxford (he was, for a time, my doctoral supervisor and so naturally I attended all of his seminars). The discussion focused upon the very issues we are now addressing, and a student, no doubt a Canadian and perhaps a Quebecer, asked whether the Quebec sign laws, mandating the use of the French language on commercial signs, could be reconciled with liberal values. My recollection is that Dworkin was far too dismissive of the possibility in answering no.
There are two reasons to think that he was wrong, on the basis of his own theory of interpretation, to be so dismissive. First, his is a circular theory. There is no sovereign root to the law or to any value, and values that are freed from a positivist foundation may have a distinctive ability to accommodate difference without forgoing the commitment to unity. The unity of value to emerge through interpretation must accept all differences that are necessary to accept in order to make coherent sense of a world full of diversity. Whether this approach might justify restrictive laws to protect a linguistic minority is, of course, still an open question—but it is an open question. A commitment to normative unity is hardly a commitment to normative sameness.
Indeed, from my limited understanding of Indigenous legal traditions, I get the sense that these traditions assume that respect for deep difference and the search for ultimate harmony are twin objectives sensibly pursued together. On this point, it may be helpful to contrast Indigenous and non-Indigenous images of the constitution as a (so-called) “living tree”. In the hands of non-Indigenous judges, the living-tree constitution consists of an impressive set of branches and leaves, alive and growing, but all emanating from one single trunk. It is a very linear account of law. Indeed, it is arguably a positivist conception of law according to which every legal norm is traceable back to a single originating phenomenon that is itself outside the law, whether Austin’s sovereign, Kelsen’s grundnorm, or Hart’s rule of recognition.. It is a conception of law that reduces constitutional pluralism to a system of delegated and subordinate constitutional powers. The Great Tree of Peace central to Haudenosaunee traditions of constitutionalism, in contrast, places equal emphasis on the branches and the complex network of roots under the tree that are also growing and extending, spreading, according to the tradition, the ideal of peace. This tree has no real beginning. It draws distinctive peoples to its shade where they may meet in council. It was under the tree that, according to one version of the tradition, the chiefs of different nations, themselves “symbolized as trees”, bound themselves together “by taking hold of each other’s hands firmly and forming a circle,” a “circle of unity”. This is a much more complicated constitutional arrangement, for it lacks a single sovereign root. However, it does suggest that normative unity can exist even when an exclusive or singular conception of sovereignty does not.
Second, we need to attend to the distinction Dworkin draws between external and internal skepticism about value. Value pluralism is a form of external skepticism. It involves stepping out of the interpretive circle and passing judgment on the process, concluding that there can never be any truth about any value, only a plurality of different opinions or traditions all contingent upon culture or politics or power. Slavery and genocide are evil on this view—for us, perhaps, but perhaps not for others. If this is value pluralism, Dworkin was right to reject it. We all should. However, this does not end the matter. Pluralism may itself be reconceived as a value with its own truth and normative implications. In other words, if value pluralism is exchanged for a conception of pluralism as a value, then we can re-enter the interpretive circle and begin to construct interpretations about how, in specific situations, pluralism may be reconciled with the other constitutional values we cherish. If we can figure out how to engage in this interpretive process—if we accept pluralism as a value in place of value pluralism—then I think we will have captured the pluralistic hedgehog.
An interpretive theory of the normative unity of constitutional value permits us to develop and defend accounts of constitutionalism that seem true, right, or best to us, but it does not guarantee convergence of ideas among different interpretations. It is a mechanism for ongoing constitutional discourse, and, in part, of constructive disagreement; agreement and acceptance will emerge, if at all, through arguments aimed at truth rather than at agreement and acceptance as such. The theory does not take an a priori position on whom in our system should, as a practical matter, determine which interpretation shall be, for the time being, legally enforced. Jeremy Webber is entirely right to say that a judicial pronouncement on deeply contested constitutional fundamentals may, on many occasions, hinder rather than help the search for just relationships. But I remain worried about characterizing the space left by courts for dialogue and deliberation between political actors and citizens as one defined by agonism. The ensuing dialogue will go better, I think, if we begin with the assumption that we are all striving to show each other the best meaning of the constitution, as if there really is some truth to the matter, rather than just incomparable or incommensurable opinions to be compromised through political struggle. We do better if we accept and listen to Indigenous claims, for example, as if they really are claims about justice that must be accommodated in a way that shows all of our convictions about value as something more than a random or arbitrary jumble. Despite our intense differences, we should not be afraid of the ideal of normative unity. Indeed, the ideal of normative unity in constitutional value is what allows us to insist upon the right, rather than just the fact of difference.
There is an answer about how to accommodate competing nationalisms within Canada, as well as the many other visions that compete for ascendancy, but we can only find it by engaging in an interpretive enterprise that seeks to show how our conclusions cohere with the general values of equality and integrity that these conclusions presuppose. A Hercules could find the answer—but fortunately such a mythical creature does not exist. For us, the best we can do is to nurture an interpretive discourse that allows the constitution to evolve, in the incremental fashion that ordinary legal interpretation enables, with the belief that our sense of integrity and justice and our appreciation for the diversity and the unity of views about equality and respect for others will deepen and converge over time and with experience. A state of constitutional harmony that respects the equal freedom to be different is just over the horizon, but we can get there only by forging the best path possible for the part of the journey that we confront today.
Rod Macdonald ended his inaugural lecture by reciting several passages from the poems of F.R. Scott. Given the emphasis on constitutional rhyme this evening, perhaps it is appropriate if I do the same. You will forgive me in advance if this seems overdramatic—but if not now, then when?
Another great Canadian poet, Leonard Cohen, who was also a great songwriter and musician, and who passed away just a few months ago, once recorded a performance of Frank Scott’s poem “Villanelle for our Time”. Cohen was, I should remind you, a student here in the Faculty of Law at McGill, though, fortunately for the literary and musical heritage of Canada and the rest of the world, only for one term. Cohen’s performance of Scott’s poem was, I think, a fitting tribute to the law professor who gave him encouragement as a young poet. The poem can be understood to be about constitutional unity amongst peoples characterized by diversity—or at least I like to read it that way. Here, then, is Scott’s “Villanelle for our Time”:
From bitter searching of the heart,
Quickened with passion and with pain
We rise to play a greater part.
This is the faith from which we start:
Men shall know commonwealth again
From bitter searching of the heart.
We loved the easy and the smart,
But now, with keener hand and brain,
We rise to play a greater part.
The lesser loyalties depart,
And neither race nor creed remain
From bitter searching of the heart.
Not steering by the venal chart
That tricked the mass for private gain,
We rise to play a greater part.
Reshaping narrow law and art
Whose symbols are the millions slain,
From bitter searching of the heart
We rise to play a greater part.
 Roderick A Macdonald, “FR Scott’s Constitution (Inaugural Lecture)” (1997) 42:1 McGill LJ 11 at 13. Another great Canadian and (one-time) Chief Justice of Canada once described Scott as “heroic”: see Bora Laskin, Book Review of Civil Liberties and Canadian Federalism by FR Scott, (1960) 13:2 UTLJ 288 at 288.
 Francis Reginald Scott (1899–1985), who studied at Bishop’s, McGill, and Oxford Universities, was a long-standing member of the Faculty of Law at McGill University, a leading mid-century Canadian poet (see e.g. FR Scott, The Collected Poems of FR Scott (Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 1981)), and a founding member of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, the precursor to the New Democratic Party of Canada. He was the author of a series of important books and essays on constitutional law. See e.g. FR Scott, Civil Liberties & Canadian Federalism (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1959); Frank R Scott, Essays on the Constitution: Aspects of Canadian Law and Politics (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1977). See also Sandra Djwa & RStJ Macdonald, eds, On FR Scott: Essays on His Contributions to Law, Literature, and Politics (Kingston: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 1983); Sandra Djwa, The Politics of the Imagination: A Life of FR Scott (Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 1987).
 Macdonald, supra note 1 at 13.
 This is, of course, hardly just my own view. For accounts of Rod Macdonald’s contributions to Canadian public and academic life, see e.g. Richard Janda, Rosalie Jukier & Daniel Jutras, eds, The Unbounded Level of the Mind: Rod Macdonald’s Legal Imagination (Montreal: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 2015); Andrée Lajoie, La vie intellectuelle de Roderick Macdonald: un engagement (Montréal: Thémis, 2014).
 See generally Mark Wenman, Agonistic Democracy: Constituent Power in the Era of Globalisation (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2013) ch 1.
 Isaiah Berlin, The Hedgehog and the Fox: An Essay on Tolstoy’s View of History (London, UK: Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1953) at 1.
 See generally Michael Ignatieff, Isaiah Berlin: A Life (Toronto: Viking, 1998). It is worth noting, however, that Ignatieff saw certain hedgehog qualities in Berlin. See ibid at 7, 201, 203.
 Isaiah Berlin, Two Concepts of Liberty: An Inaugural Lecture Delivered Before the University of Oxford on 31 October 1958 (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1958) at 56–57.
 Ronald Dworkin, Justice for Hedgehogs (Cambridge, Mass: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, 2011) at 1 [Dworkin, Justice for Hedgehogs].
 Macdonald, supra note 1 at 23–24.
 Ibid at 23.
 I explore these ideas in Mark D Walters, “Legal Humanism and Law-as-Integrity” (2008) 67:2 Cambridge LJ 352.
 Sir John Doderidge, The English Lawyer: Describing a Method for the Managing of the Lawes of this Land (London: I More, 1631) at 62–64.
 John Austin, Lectures on Jurisprudence (London, UK: John Murray, 1863) vol 2 at 249 [emphasis in original].
 Ibid at 272 [emphasis in original].
 Ibid at 275–77 [emphasis in original].
 See Henry Sumner Maine, Ancient Law: Its Connection with the Early History of Society, and Its Relation to Modern Ideas (London, UK: John Murray, 1861) at 58.
 Ibid at 58–60 [emphasis in original].
 Ibid at 79.
 See TFT Plucknett & JL Barton, eds, St German’s Doctor and Student (London, UK: Selden Society, 1974) at 97. See generally Mark D Walters, “St. German on Reason and Parliamentary Sovereignty” (2003) 62:2 Cambridge LJ 335.
 Like many other legal academics, I have been influenced in my views on this topic by the works of John Borrows, including his books. See e.g. John Borrows, Freedom and Indigenous Constitutionalism (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2016) [Borrows, Freedom & Indigenous Constitutionalism]; John Borrows, Canada’s Indigenous Constitution (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2010) [Borrows, Canada’s Indigenous Constitution]; John Borrows, Drawing Out Law: A Spirit’s Guide (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2010).
 See Mark D Walters, “Rights and Remedies within Common Law and Indigenous Legal Traditions: Can the Covenant Chain be Judicially Enforced Today?” in John Borrows & Michael Coyle, eds, The Right Relationship: Reimagining the Implementation of Historical Treaties (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2017) 187 at 195. I have (no doubt naïvely) tried to summarize some of my views on this topic in the following essay: Mark D Walters, “The Morality of Aboriginal Law” (2006) 31:2 Queen’s LJ 470.
 See Roderick A MacDonald, “Kaleidoscopic Federalism” in Jean-François Gaudrault-Desbiens & Fabien Gélinas, eds, The States and Moods of Federalism: Governance, Identity and Methodology, (Cowansville, Qc, Brussels: Yvon Blais, Bruylant, 2005) 273, where a similar theme is discussed.
 See John Borrows, “Wampum at Niagara: The Royal Proclamation, Canadian Legal History, and Self-Government” in Michael Asch, ed, Aboriginal and Treaty Rights in Canada: Essays on Law, Equality, and Respect for Difference (Vancouver: UBC Press, 1997) 155 at 161–62. See also Jeremy Webber, “Relations of Force and Relations of Justice: The Emergence of Normative Community between Colonists and Aboriginal peoples” (1995) 33:4 Osgoode Hall LJ 623.
 The covenant chain wampum belts exchanged at Niagara in 1764 are now lost, but drawings of them can be found in AF Hunter, “Wampum Records of the Ottawas” in Annual Archaeological Report 1901, Being Part of Appendix to the Report of the Minister of Education Ontario (Toronto: LK Cameron, 1902) 52 at 52–53, online: University of Toronto <scans.library.utoronto.ca/pdf/1/9/
 See Mark D Walters, “‘Your Sovereign and Our Father’: The Imperial Crown and the Idea of Legal-Ethnohistory” in Shaunnagh Dorsett & Ian Hunter, eds, Law and Politics in British Colonial Thought: Transpositions of Empire (New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2010) 91 at 94, 99.
 This speech was delivered at a treaty council that took place at Albany in September 1685, as reported in The Honourable Cadwallader Colden, The History of the Five Indian Nations of Canada Which are Dependent on the Province of New-York in America, and are the Barrier between the English and French in that Part of the World (London, UK: T Osborne, 1747) at 57, online: Internet Archive <https://archive.
org/details/historyoffiveind04cold> [emphasis in original].
 John Gray, “Agonistic Liberalism” (1995) 12:1 Social Philosophy & Policy 111 at 114 [Gray, “Agnostic Liberalism”]. See also John Gray, Isaiah Berlin (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1996) at 22.
 Gray, “Agonistic Liberalism”, supra note 28 at 114.
 Ibid at 122 [emphasis in original].
 Ibid at 116.
 See Daniel M Weinstock, “The Graying of Berlin” (1997) 11:4 Critical Rev 481 at 490.
 See Chantal Mouffe, “Democracy and Pluralism: A Critique of the Rationalist Approach” (1995) 16:5 Cardozo L Rev 1533; Chantal Mouffe, “Carl Schmitt and the Paradox of Liberal Democracy” (1997) 10:1 Can JL & Jur 21; Chantal Mouffe, The Democratic Paradox (London: Verso, 2000) at 4; Chantal Mouffe, On the Political (Abingdon: Routledge, 2005) at 14–16; Chantal Mouffe, Agonistics: Thinking the World Politically (London: Verso, 2013) at 137–38.
 See Carl Schmitt, Constitutional Theory, translated by Jeffrey Seitzer, ed (Durham: Duke University Press, 2008) at 405. See also Carl Schmitt, Political Theology: Four Chapters on the Concept of Sovereignty, translated by George Schwab (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2005) at 5–7. See generally Carl Schmitt, The Concept of the Political, expanded ed, translated by George Schwab (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2007).
 See David Dyzenhaus, Legality and Legitimacy: Carl Schmitt, Hans Kelsen and Hermann Heller in Weimar (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1997) at 68, 96.
 For a scathing critique of Mouffe’s agonism, see Radhika Desai, “Fetishizing Phantoms: Carl Schmitt, Chantal Mouffe, and the ‘The Political’” in Abigail B Bakan & Eleanor Macdonald, eds, Critical Political Studies: Debates and Dialogues from the Left (Montreal: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 2002) 387. See also Martin Beckstein, “The Dissociative and Polemical Political: Chantal Mouffe and the Intellectual Heritage of Carl Schmitt” (2011) 16:1 J Political Ideologies 33.
 RSQ c E-20.2 [Bill 99]. Judgment in this case has now been rendered in Henderson c Procureure générale du Québec, 2018 QCCS 1586 (j.c.s. Claude Dallaire). See also Graeme Hamilton, “Quebec Independence back in Spotlight as Challenge of 17-year-old Secession Law goes to Trial”, National Post (March 20 2017), online: <nationalpost.com>, archived at https://perma.cc/4ZG3-LVCQ.
 Reference re Secession of Quebec,  2 SCR 217, 161 DLR (4th) 385 [Quebec Secession Reference].
 Grand Council of the Crees, “Eeyou Estchee Declaration of Principles” (17–19 October 1995), online: <www.gcc.ca/gcc/other.php>, archived at https://perma.cc/C33Z-3ZNY (original website now offline). This statement was issued just weeks prior to the 1995 referendum on Quebec independence.
 On competing conceptions of Indigenous sovereignty in Canada see generally Mark D Walters, “‘Looking for a Knot in a Bulrush’: Reflections on Aboriginal and Crown Sovereignty” in Patrick Macklem & Douglas Sanderson, eds, From Recognition to Reconciliation: Essays on the Constitutional Entrenchment of Aboriginal and Treaty Rights (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2016) 35.
 Bill 99, supra note 37, s 1.
 James Tully, Public Philosophy in a New Key, vol 1 (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2008) at 130, cited in Borrows, Canada’s Indigenous Constitution, supra note 21 at 288.
 Jeremy Webber, The Constitution of Canada: A Contextual Analysis (Oxford: Hart, 2015) at 8 [Webber, Constitution of Canada].
 Ibid [emphasis added]. For a link between Webber’s idea of “agonistic constitutionalism” and Tully, see Jeremy Webber, “We Are Still in the Age of Encounter: Section 35 and a Canada beyond Sovereignty” in Macklem & Sanderson, supra note 40, 63 at 64, n 1, citing James Tully, Strange Multiplicity: Constitutionalism in an Age of Diversity (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1995).
 As John D Whyte, representing the Attorney General of Saskatchewan, stated in his oral submissions before the Supreme Court of Canada in the Quebec Secession Reference, supra note 38 at para 96: “The threads of a thousand acts of accommodation are the fabric of a nation.”
 See e.g. Jeremy Webber, “National Sovereignty, Migration, and the Tenuous Hold of International Legality: The Resurfacing (and Resubmersion?) of Carl Schmitt” in Oliver Schmidtke & Saime Ozcurumez, eds, Of States, Rights, and Social Closure: Governing Migration and Citizenship (New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2008) 61 at 61–62:
For me, reading Schmitt is like looking the devil in the face. The implications of his arguments are objectionable but they are also undeniably and powerfully seductive. He uncovers—indeed celebrates—claims and motives that have more bite than we would like to admit. We have an obligation to look at him, understand his attraction, and be very clear where and why he goes off the rails.
 Tully does occasionally cite Mouffe when explaining agonism (see e.g. James Tully, “The Unfreedom of the Moderns in Comparison to Their Ideals of Constitutional Democracy” (2002) 65:2 Mod L Rev 204 at 208, n 8; James Tully, “Struggles over Recognition and Distribution” (2000) 7:4 Constellations 469 at 476, 479 nn, 16, 23). Tully has been grouped with Mouffe among the agonists who pursue a “politics of compulsion” over one of principle, though, it is also acknowledged, that members of this group perceive “the potential for actual enjoyment, liberation and hope in aspects of the bleak coercive political world” (see Marc Stears, “Liberalism and the Politics of Compulsion” (2007) 37:3 British J Political Science 533 at 545).
 Michel Foucault, “The Subject and Power” (1982) 8:4 Critical Inquiry 777 at 790, cited in James Tully, “The Agonic Freedom of Citizens” (1999) 28:2 Economy & Society 161 at 167 [Tully, “Agonic Freedom”]. See also Borrows, Canada’s Indigenous Constitution, supra note 21 at 288 (where Borrows cites Tully); Borrows, Freedom & Indigenous Constitutionalism, supra note 21 (discussing Webber’s “agonistic constitutionalism” at 105).
 Tully, “Agonic Freedom”, supra note 48 at 174 [emphasis in original].
 Dworkin, Justice for Hedgehogs, supra note 9 at 130ff. See also Ronald Dworkin, “Law as Interpretation” (1982) 60:3 Tex L Rev 527; Ronald Dworkin, Law’s Empire (Cambridge, Mass: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, 1986) ch 2 [Dworkin, Law’s Empire]; Ronald Dworkin, “Objectivity and Truth: You’d Better Believe It” (1996) 25:2 Philosophy & Public Affairs 87. The story of the link between ancient and modern interpretivism has not really been fully told, but I think the principal intermediary links between, say, Aristotle and Dworkin would be Henry Sidgwick and John Rawls, with countless and nameless common law judges doing the background work.
 These ideas are developed in Mark D Walters, “The Unwritten Constitution as a Legal Concept” in David Dyzenhaus & Malcolm Thorburn, eds, Philosophical Foundations of Constitutional Law (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2016) 33.
 See Dworkin, Law’s Empire, supra note 51 at 260–63.
 See Charter of the French language, RSQ c C-11. The sign laws had been the subject of a controversial ruling by the Supreme Court of Canada several years earlier (see Ford v Quebec (AG)  2 SCR 712, 54 DLR (4th) 577).
 See Edwards v Canada (AG) (1929),  AC 124 at 136,  1 DLR 98 (PC), Viscount Sankey (“[t]he British North America Act planted in Canada a living tree capable of growth and expansion within its natural limits” at 136).
 See John Austin, The Province of Jurisprudence Determined, 2nd ed (London: John Murray, 1861); Hans Kelsen, General Theory of Law and State, translated by Anders Wedberg (Cambridge, Mass: Harvard University Press, 1945); HLA Hart, The Concept of Law (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1961).
 See Paul AW Wallace, The White Roots of Peace (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1946) at 7–8. For another recent comparison of the “living tree” metaphor in Canadian constitutional law and the Haudenosaunee Great Law of Peace, see Borrows, Freedom and Indigenous Constitutionalism, supra note 21 at 151–52.
 Arthur C Parker, “The Constitution of the Five Nations, or The Iroquois Book of the Great Law” (1916) New York State Museum Bulletin No 184 at 102.
 And so, it is different from deliberative discourse of the kind advanced by John Rawls. See Mark D Walters, “Deliberating about Constitutionalism” in Ron Levy et al, eds, The Cambridge Handbook of Deliberative Constitutionalism (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2018) 167.
 See Webber, Constitution of Canada, supra note 43 at 8, 259–65.
 FR Scott, “Villanelle for Our Time” (1945) in Laura Moss, ed, Leaving the Shade of the Middle Ground: The Poetry of FR Scott (Waterloo: Wilfred Laurier University Press, 2011) 60. Leonard Cohen’s recording of this poem is on his album “Dear Heather”, CDROM (Toronto: Sony BMG Music Entertainment, 2004).
 See Jeff Burger, ed, Leonard Cohen on Leonard Cohen: Interviews and Encounters (Chicago, Chicago Review Press, 2014) at xvi. See generally Sylvie Simmons, I’m Your Man: The Life of Leonard Cohen (New York: Ecco, 2012).
 In relation to his friendship with FR Scott, Leonard Cohen told Sandra Djwa that he (Cohen) “had attended law school at McGill for a time because it had been a good place for Scott”, and that Scott had later allowed Cohen to stay at his summer house in North Hatley where he wrote much of his first novel The Favorite Game. Cohen said that he had been reluctant to undertake the life of a writer, but Scott “gave me the courage to fail.” (See Sandra Djwa, “After the Wipeout, a Renewal” in Burger, supra note 62, 10 at 10).